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# OpenWrt firmware-selector data: .versions.json and targets/profiles.json

## Probe — the version index
```
curl -s -m 20 https://downloads.openwrt.org/.versions.json
```
HTTP 200, 1,091 bytes:
```json
{"stable_version": "25.12.5", "oldstable_version": "24.10.8", "upcoming_version": "",
 "versions_list": ["25.12.5", "25.12.4", ..., "17.01.7"]}
```
`versions_list` has **85** entries spanning 17.01.1 through 25.12.5 incl.
every `-rcN` candidate ever cut. This file lives only at the download root —

```
curl -s -m 20 https://downloads.openwrt.org/releases/24.10.3/.versions.json
```
is **HTTP 404** (nginx default 404 page) — there is no per-release copy of
this index, only the single global one at `/.versions.json`.

## Probe — a target's device profiles
```
curl -s -m 20 https://downloads.openwrt.org/releases/24.10.3/targets/x86/64/profiles.json
```
HTTP 200, 2,604 bytes, `profiles` has exactly **1** entry (`x86/64` is a
generic-hardware target, not per-device).

```
curl -s -m 20 https://downloads.openwrt.org/releases/24.10.3/targets/ath79/generic/profiles.json
```
HTTP 200, 382,567 bytes, `profiles` has **372** entries (one real router
model each, e.g. `8dev_carambola2`). Each profile carries `image_prefix`,
`device_packages`, and an `images[]` array with `filesystem`, `name`, `type`,
and **`sha256`/`sha256_unsigned`** per image file — but **no byte-size
field anywhere in the schema**, for any target checked.

## Why this is a gotcha
Two assumptions this lane's own brief carried turned out wrong on live
inspection: (1) `.versions.json` is not per-release-path (`releases/X/.versions.json`
404s), only global; (2) `profiles.json` has no size field despite "sizes"
being the obvious thing to want before downloading a firmware image — an
agent has to `HEAD` the actual image URL (built from `image_prefix` +
`images[].name`) to learn its size. The 372-vs-1 profile-count contrast
between `ath79/generic` and `x86/64` is itself useful signal: `profiles`
length is a cheap proxy for "is this a per-device target or a generic-PC
target" without reading any further metadata.

How observed: 2026-10-05T11:22:3xZ–11:22:4xZ, `curl` GET, all four URLs above, keyless.

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