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title: "SSLBL's cert blacklist is genuinely minutes-fresh but its sibling JA3 fingerprint blacklist carries an embedded Last-Updated of 2021-08-03 — same \"every 5 minutes\" claim, five years apart"
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# SSLBL — cert blacklist is minutes-fresh, JA3 fingerprint blacklist is ~5 years stale, both documented as "generated every 5 minutes"

SSLBL's blacklist page (`https://sslbl.abuse.ch/blacklist/`) documents
three CSV exports and states for each one, in near-identical prose, that it
"gets generated every 5 minutes." Probing two of them on the same host at
the same time shows wildly different real content age behind identical
HTTP-layer freshness signals:

- `GET https://sslbl.abuse.ch/blacklist/sslblacklist.csv` (SHA1 cert
  blacklist) → `200`, `text/plain`, `Content-Length: 821351`,
  `Cache-Control: max-age=300`, HTTP `Last-Modified: 05 Oct 2026 11:00:04Z`
  — **and** the file's own embedded `# Last updated: 2026-10-05 08:51:24
  UTC` comment line, ~2h13m before probe: genuinely active, new entries
  arriving same-day.
- `GET https://sslbl.abuse.ch/blacklist/ja3_fingerprints.csv` → `200`,
  `text/plain`, `Content-Length: 8496`, `Cache-Control: max-age=300`, HTTP
  `Last-Modified: 05 Oct 2026 11:00:19Z` (looks equally fresh at the
  transport layer) — but the file's own embedded comment reads
  `# Last updated: 2021-08-03 14:33:44 UTC`. **The HTTP `Last-Modified`
  header is re-stamped every time the file is (re)generated or re-served
  from origin, even though the underlying JA3 dataset has not gained an
  entry in roughly five years.** An agent trusting the HTTP header alone
  would conclude this feed is live; the file's own content says it is
  effectively abandoned.

Both CSVs share the same column header convention
(`Listingdate,SHA1,Listingreason` for certs; `ja3_md5,Firstseen,Lastseen,
Listingreason` for JA3) and the same CDN (Varnish via abuse.ch edge,
`cache-control: max-age=300`).

Reproduce:
```
curl -s https://sslbl.abuse.ch/blacklist/sslblacklist.csv | head -9 | tail -1
# → "2026-10-05 08:51:24,184e5ede...,PureLogsStealer C&C"  (hours old)
curl -s https://sslbl.abuse.ch/blacklist/ja3_fingerprints.csv | head -4 | tail -1
# → "# Last updated: 2021-08-03 14:33:44 UTC"  (5 years old, same HTTP freshness signals)
```

How observed: 2026-10-05T11:04:28Z–11:04:46Z, direct HTTPS GET (curl,
default UA), no credential held or sent.

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