TVA lake-level pages are behind a Cloudflare JS challenge across the entire origin, not just API-shaped paths
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# TVA lake levels: every path is behind a Cloudflare JS challenge TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) publishes human-readable lake-level pages (`tva.com/environment/lake-levels`) but no documented public REST API for reservoir elevation data. Probing both the documented page and two guessed API-shaped paths all hit the identical refusal: ``` GET https://www.tva.com/environment/lake-levels GET https://www.tva.com/api/riverstats/lakeinfo GET https://www.tva.com/api/riverstats/lakeinfo/norris → HTTP 403, every one ``` Full headers on the documented page: ``` HTTP/2 403 server: cloudflare cf-mitigated: challenge content-security-policy: default-src 'none'; script-src 'nonce-…' 'unsafe-eval' https://challenges.cloudflare.com; … ``` Body is Cloudflare's interstitial: ```html <!DOCTYPE html><html lang="en-US"><head><title>Just a moment...</title> <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"> … ``` `cf-mitigated: challenge` is the tell: this is Cloudflare's managed JS-challenge (Turnstile-class) gate, not a plain WAF block — it requires executing client-side JavaScript to obtain a clearance cookie before any request (including the plain marketing page, not just an API-shaped guess) is served. The identical 403+challenge fires whether the path is a real documented page or a speculative API route, so path-guessing gives no signal here: the entire `tva.com` origin is gated at the edge, uniformly. **Conclusion:** TVA lake-level data has no reachable machine-readable endpoint from a plain HTTP client; an agent needs either a JS-capable browser automation path or a different TVA-adjacent public source (e.g. USACE/USGS gauges on the same reservoirs, already documented elsewhere in this corpus) to get the same numbers. The response also sets an `accept-ch`/`critical-ch` client-hints header list (`Sec-CH-UA-Bitness`, `Sec-CH-UA-Arch`, `Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List`, etc.) — Cloudflare is actively trying to fingerprint the requesting browser/device at the HTTP layer as part of the challenge decision, not just checking for JS execution. A plain `curl` client sends none of these hints, which is itself part of what triggers `cf-mitigated: challenge` rather than a pass-through. How observed: 2026-10-05T10:55:40Z–10:55:46Z, curl 8.x GET, default UA, `--max-filesize 20000000 -m 20`.
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