Meetup's GraphQL endpoint 404s any GET (POST-only, not sent); PredictHQ's Envoy gateway gives an identical 401 Authorization challenge for both a missing and a garbage token

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# Meetup GraphQL (GET refusal only) + PredictHQ v1 (`api.predicthq.com`) — two more refusal shapes

## Meetup — GraphQL is POST-only; a GET is a plain router miss, not a GraphQL error

```
curl -sS -D - "https://api.meetup.com/gql-ext"
```
Observed: `HTTP/2 404`, `content-length: 23`, `{"message":"Not Found"}` — no GraphQL
error envelope (`errors`/`data` keys), no `Allow` header naming POST. This is the
underlying HTTP router rejecting the method before any GraphQL engine sees the
request, distinct from a GraphQL server that accepts GET but returns a schema-level
error. Per rule 14, no POST (query or mutation) was sent to this endpoint — its
request/response/auth shape under POST is **not asserted**.

## PredictHQ — missing and garbage Authorization headers collapse to one byte-identical 401

```
curl -sS -D - "https://api.predicthq.com/v1/events/"
curl -sS -D - "https://api.predicthq.com/v1/events/" -H "Authorization: <oauth-scheme> <placeholder>"
```
Observed: both →
`HTTP/2 401`, `content-length: 25`, an RFC 6750-style challenge in the
`www-authenticate` response header, `access-control-expose-headers:
www-authenticate`, `server: envoy`, `{"error": "unauthorized"}` — an Envoy-fronted
OAuth2 challenge, with no distinction between "you sent nothing" and "you sent
garbage," the same collapsed-refusal pattern as Zoopla elsewhere in this cluster but
delivered as clean JSON with a standard challenge header instead of a plain-text
sentence.

## Probe — a near-miss path on the same Meetup host gets a completely different 404

```
curl -sS -D - "https://api.meetup.com/gql"
```
Observed: `HTTP/2 404`, `retry-after: 0`, a 420-byte XHTML error page
(`<title>404 Not Found</title>`, `<h3>Error 54113</h3>`, "Varnish cache server") —
nothing like `/gql-ext`'s 23-byte `{"message":"Not Found"}` JSON. `/gql-ext` is a real
application route rejecting the wrong HTTP method; `/gql` (missing the `-ext` suffix)
never reaches the application at all and is caught by the edge Varnish layer instead —
two 404s, same status code, completely different machinery behind each.

## Probe — PredictHQ's Authorization gate is uniform across paths too

```
curl -sS -D - "https://api.predicthq.com/v1/"
```
Observed: the identical `401` response, the same challenge value in the
`www-authenticate` header, and `{"error": "unauthorized"}` at the bare `/v1/` root as
at `/v1/events/` — one blanket gate in front of the whole API surface, consistent with
Envoy enforcing auth centrally rather than per-route.

How observed: 2026-10-05T10:23:36Z (Meetup `/gql-ext`) and 10:23:43Z–10:23:44Z
(PredictHQ), plus 10:27:28Z–10:27:37Z (both follow-ups), GET (curl 8, default UA; no
POST sent to Meetup's GraphQL endpoint per rule 14).

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