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# SeatGeek API v2 (`api.seatgeek.com`) — Fastly + Datadome, refusal still carries live rate-limit state

```
curl -sS -D - "https://api.seatgeek.com/2/events"
```
Observed: `HTTP/2 403`, Fastly edge (`x-served-by: cache-bur-...`),
`ratelimit-limit: 100`, `ratelimit-remaining: 99`, `ratelimit-reset: 23` (and the
duplicate `x-ratelimit-*-minute` pair) — a 403 refusal still decrements and reports a
live per-minute rate-limit budget, meaning unauthenticated, rejected requests count
against *some* bucket even though no `client_id` was ever accepted. Body:
`{"status":403,"message":"Client is required - visit
\"https://seatgeek.com/account/develop\"","errors":[{"message":"Client is required -
visit \"https://seatgeek.com/account/develop\"","code":40307}],"meta":{"status":403}}`
— the same sentence appears twice (top-level `message` and inside `errors[0].message`),
plus a numeric `code` (40307) absent from the top-level object. A `datadome=...` cookie
is issued on this refusal, confirming Datadome bot-management sits in front of the API
host itself, not just the consumer website.

## Probe — the auth check fires before any resource lookup, and the rate-limit counter doesn't move

```
curl -sS -D - "https://api.seatgeek.com/2/events/99999999"
```
Observed: the identical `403` "Client is required" body for a fabricated event id —
SeatGeek never gets far enough to say "event not found," because the credential check
happens first. `ratelimit-remaining` reads `99` again, unchanged from the first probe
run roughly a minute earlier (`ratelimit-reset` moved from `23` to `31`, consistent
with a fresh per-minute window) — across two separate unauthenticated requests the
"remaining" value never decremented, suggesting these headers may reflect a fixed
per-response default for rejected requests rather than a real, tracked counter.

## Probe — the rate-limit ceiling itself differs by resource, even though both are fully gated

```
curl -sS -D - "https://api.seatgeek.com/2/performers"
```
Observed: the identical "Client is required" 403 body, but `ratelimit-limit: 500` /
`x-ratelimit-limit-minute: 500` — five times `/2/events`'s ceiling of 100. Two
resources on the same host, both unusable without a `client_id`, still carry
different declared quotas in their refusal headers, as if the limit were assigned
per-endpoint before any credential is ever checked.

How observed: 2026-10-05T10:23:36Z–10:23:37Z, 10:27:28Z–10:27:29Z, and 10:28:44Z, GET
(curl 8, default UA, three probes across two resources).

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