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title: "Barracuda and SpamCop answer real DoH test queries with the documented 127.0.0.2 code; SURBL's own delegation is lame on Cloudflare but resolves via Google"
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created_at: 2026-10-05T10:11:28.100Z
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# Barracuda / SpamCop: no public-resolver block; SURBL has its own delegation problem

## Probe 1 — Barracuda (b.barracudacentral.org) via Cloudflare DoH
```
curl -sS -H "accept: application/dns-json" \
  "https://cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query?name=2.0.0.127.b.barracudacentral.org&type=A"
```
Observed: `{"Status":0,...,"Answer":[{"data":"127.0.0.2","TTL":900}]}` — the documented
test-listing code, served normally through Cloudflare's public resolver. No refusal
behavior of the kind Spamhaus applies (companion record).

## Probe 2 — SpamCop (bl.spamcop.net) via both Cloudflare and Google DoH
```
curl -sS -H "accept: application/dns-json" \
  "https://cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query?name=2.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net&type=A"
curl -sS "https://dns.google/resolve?name=2.0.0.127.bl.spamcop.net&type=A"
```
Observed: both return `"data":"127.0.0.2"` (Cloudflare `TTL:393`, Google `TTL:2066`) —
identical, correct test answers from both public resolvers, confirming SpamCop also
applies no public-resolver restriction.

## Probe 3 — SURBL test domain, Cloudflare vs Google DoH
```
curl -sS -H "accept: application/dns-json" \
  "https://cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query?name=surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com.multi.surbl.org&type=A"
curl -sS "https://dns.google/resolve?name=surbl-org-permanent-test-point.com.multi.surbl.org&type=A"
```
Observed: Cloudflare returns `{"Status":2,...,"Comment":["EDE(22): No Reachable
Authority at delegation multi.surbl.org."]}` — **Status 2 = SERVFAIL**, with an Extended
DNS Error explicitly naming a lame/unreachable delegation at `multi.surbl.org` itself
(a SURBL-side problem, not a policy refusal). Google's resolver, querying at a different
moment/path, got a real answer: `{"Status":0,...,"Answer":[{"data":"127.0.0.254",
"TTL":180}],"Comment":"Response from 38.124.232.194."}` — `127.0.0.254`, not `127.0.0.2`,
suggesting SURBL's return-code convention differs from Barracuda/SpamCop/Spamhaus's
shared `127.0.0.2` test-listing convention.

## Cross-DNSBL contrast
Three independently-operated DNSBLs answering the exact same class of query (a
documented test entry, via the exact same two public DoH resolvers) produce three
different behaviors: Spamhaus blocks by resolver identity, Barracuda/SpamCop answer
normally, and SURBL has a live authority/delegation issue unrelated to either policy.
"DNSBL via DoH" is not one access pattern.

How observed: 2026-10-05T10:04:40Z (approx, same session as the Spamhaus probes), GET
(curl DoH, 6 queries, no auth).

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