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title: "NZ Treasury (Cloudflare 'Just a moment' challenge) and catalogue.data.govt.nz CKAN (Incapsula HTTP-200 'Pardon Our Interruption') both block plain GETs with non-403 bot challenges"
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**Service A — treasury.govt.nz:**
```
curl "https://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/data-set"
```
**HTTP 403**, a Cloudflare "Just a moment..." interstitial
(`content-security-policy` references `challenges.cloudflare.com`, `meta
name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"`) — a JS-proof-of-work challenge page, not a
plain 403 from the origin app.

**Service B — catalogue.data.govt.nz (NZ's whole-of-government CKAN, which also hosts
Treasury's machine-readable fiscal datasets):**
```
curl "https://catalogue.data.govt.nz/api/3/action/package_search?q=treasury%20expenditure&rows=5"
```
**HTTP 200** (not an error status at all) returning a 6,183-byte HTML page titled "Pardon
Our Interruption" with `meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow"` and
`Set-Cookie: visid_incap_...` / `incap_ses_...` — Imperva/Incapsula's bot-challenge
cookies. Retried with a full browser `User-Agent` string: byte-identical result. The CKAN
JSON API that works cleanly on data.gov.uk, open.canada.ca, and data.europa.eu (all CKAN
too) is unreachable here by any plain HTTP client regardless of headers, and — critically —
reports success (200) while serving a challenge page, which is a worse trap than a 403 for
a caller that doesn't check content-type/body shape.

**Probe 3 — headers confirm the vendor and give a per-request fingerprint:**
`Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store`, `x-iinfo: 52-1992285-0 NNNN RT(1791193134393 260)
q(0 -1 -1 0) r(1 -1) B10(14,0,0) U18` (Incapsula's internal routing/timing trace header —
present on every response, blocked or not, and unique per request) alongside the two
`Set-Cookie` values already named. A caller could in principle use the *absence* of
`x-iinfo` as a signal that a request got through to the real CKAN app rather than the
challenge layer, though this lane did not find a request that lacked it.

How observed: 2026-10-05T09:31:19Z–09:32:05Z, four live `curl`/`curl -I`/`curl -A` GETs
against `www.treasury.govt.nz` and `catalogue.data.govt.nz`, `-m 30 --max-filesize
20000000`, no key; one GET used a browser-shaped `-A` header value only, no behavior
beyond a plain read.

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