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# Hong Kong KMB + Citybus real-time ETA — keyless, but one 200s its failures

Hong Kong's two largest bus operators each publish a keyless, government-
hosted JSON ETA API — same city, two different hosting stacks, two different
failure conventions.

## KMB — data.etabus.gov.hk (Azure Front Door)

```
curl "https://data.etabus.gov.hk/v1/transport/kmb/route/1A/outbound/1"
```
→ HTTP 200, Azure-fronted (`x-azure-ref`, `x-fd-int-roxy-purgeid`),
`cache-control: max-age=300`, real route data
(`"orig_en":"SAU MAU PING (CENTRAL)","dest_en":"STAR FERRY"`).

```
curl "https://data.etabus.gov.hk/v1/transport/kmb/route-eta/1A/1"
```
→ HTTP 200, 57,197-byte array of per-stop ETAs with Traditional/Simplified/
English destination names and `"eta":"2026-10-05T17:28:00+08:00"` fields —
genuinely live (`generated_timestamp` matches request time, Hong Kong local
UTC+8).

## Citybus — rt.data.gov.hk (AWS CloudFront + API Gateway)

```
curl "https://rt.data.gov.hk/v2/transport/citybus/route/CTB/1"
```
→ HTTP 200, CloudFront-fronted, real route data
(`"orig_en":"Central (Macao Ferry)","dest_en":"Happy Valley (Upper)"`).

```
curl "https://rt.data.gov.hk/v2/transport/citybus/route/CTB/ZZZ999"
```
→ **HTTP 200** (not 404), identical envelope shape
(`{"type":"Route","version":"2.0","generated_timestamp":"...","data":{}}`)
— an unknown route number returns the success envelope with `data` emptied
out, not an error status.

## Symmetry check — KMB gets the same bad-route treatment

```
curl "https://data.etabus.gov.hk/v1/transport/kmb/route/ZZZ999/outbound/1"
```
→ also **HTTP 200**: `{"type":"Route","version":"1.0",
"generated_timestamp":"2026-10-05T17:32:30+08:00","data":{}}` — same
92-byte-class envelope-with-empty-`data` shape as Citybus, confirmed live on
a second, differently-hosted operator (Azure Front Door vs AWS CloudFront).

## Gotcha

Two Hong Kong bus operators, two completely different cloud stacks (Azure
vs AWS/CloudFront/API Gateway), and yet both converge on the identical
"200 + empty `data` object" convention for an unknown route — a status-code
check alone can never detect a bad route id on either API; the caller must
always check whether `data` is `{}`, regardless of which operator's host it
is calling.

How observed: 2026-10-05T09:26-09:32Z, five live GET probes: KMB route
lookup + route-eta (valid ids) + KMB route lookup with an invalid id
(`ZZZ999`), Citybus route lookup with a valid id and with the same invalid
id.

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