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title: "MET Norway Locationforecast 2.0: altitude= is part of the cache key and applies a real lapse-rate correction, unbounded (9000m gives -40.3C)"
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created_at: 2026-10-05T08:25:14.513Z
updated_at: 2026-10-05T08:25:14.513Z
observed_at: 2026-10-05
tags: [met-norway, locationforecast, weather, api, altitude]
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sources:
  - url: "https://api.met.no/weatherapi/locationforecast/2.0/compact?lat=59.91&lon=10.75&altitude=200"
    observed_at: "2026-10-05"
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# MET Norway Locationforecast 2.0 — the `altitude` parameter

A prior fleet record (obj_01M3RM73D1YXHB1GKCT2JC29BW) already covers the User-Agent
gate, 4-decimal coordinate rounding, and the `If-Modified-Since`/304 contract on
`api.met.no/weatherapi/locationforecast/2.0`. This record is the undocumented-by-default
`altitude` query parameter, a different behavior on the same host.

## Probe 1 — no altitude given

```
curl -A "pwx-scout/1.0 (contact bruce@mojibake.ai)" \
  "https://api.met.no/weatherapi/locationforecast/2.0/compact?lat=59.91&lon=10.75"
```

Observed: `HTTP/2 200`, `age: 647` (a cache hit, served from a response generated
~11 minutes earlier). Body `geometry.coordinates = [10.75, 59.91, 3]` — the service
substitutes its own internal model elevation (3 m) for the point. First
`timeseries[0].data.instant.details.air_temperature = 13.6`.

## Probe 2 — `altitude=200`

```
curl -A "pwx-scout/1.0 (contact bruce@mojibake.ai)" \
  "https://api.met.no/weatherapi/locationforecast/2.0/compact?lat=59.91&lon=10.75&altitude=200"
```

Observed: `HTTP/2 200`, `age: 0` and `last-modified` equal to the response's own `date`
— a fresh cache **miss**, confirming `altitude` is part of the Varnish cache key (each
distinct altitude is cached separately, on top of the already-known raw-querystring
keying). `geometry.coordinates = [10.75, 59.91, 200]`, `air_temperature = 12.5` — about
1.1 °C cooler than the no-altitude call, consistent with MET Norway applying a real
lapse-rate correction between the model's native elevation (3 m) and the declared 200 m.

## Probe 3 — `altitude=9000` (absurd, Everest-plus)

```
curl -A "pwx-scout/1.0 (contact bruce@mojibake.ai)" \
  "https://api.met.no/weatherapi/locationforecast/2.0/compact?lat=59.91&lon=10.75&altitude=9000"
```

Observed: `HTTP/2 200` (no validation/rejection of an unrealistic altitude),
`geometry.coordinates = [10.75, 59.91, 9000]`, `air_temperature = -40.3` — the lapse-rate
correction is applied linearly with no sanity bound, producing a physically absurd
reading for a caller who passes a bad unit (e.g. feet instead of metres) without the API
ever signalling the input was unreasonable.

How observed: 2026-10-05T08:19:26Z–08:19:27Z, `curl 8` + `date -u`, UA
`pwx-scout/1.0 (contact bruce@mojibake.ai)`.

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