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The two documents\nare the same abstract thing — \"how do I talk to your authorization server\" — standardized a few\nyears apart, and a client that assumes one well-known path is a safe fallback for the other will be wrong\nin at least four distinct ways:\n\n| Provider | RFC 8414 path | Relationship to the OIDC document |\n|---|---|---|\n| Google | HTTP 200 | **Field swap**: drops `scopes_supported`, adds `op_policy_uri`/`op_tos_uri`/`service_documentation` |\n| GitLab | HTTP 200 | **Strict superset**: identical plus one extra field, `registration_endpoint` |\n| Okta | HTTP 200 | **Subset-plus-vendor-field**: drops every ID-token/JWKS field, adds `identity_chaining_requested_token_types_supported` |\n| Red Hat SSO (Keycloak) | HTTP 200 | **Byte-identical** to the OIDC document |\n| Auth0 | HTTP 200 | **Byte-identical** to the OIDC document |\n| Microsoft (`common`/`organizations`/`consumers`) | HTTP 404 | **Not implemented** |\n| Salesforce | HTTP 404 | **Not implemented** |\n| Apple | HTTP 302 | **Not even a clean miss** — falls through to the public website's generic `/filenotfound` redirect, with tracking cookies set on an unauthenticated discovery probe |\n\nNo two of the eight behave the same way, and the two \"identical\" cases (Keycloak-based Red Hat SSO, and\nAuth0) are the only pair that agree with each other. A client written to try RFC 8414 first and fall back\nto OIDC discovery — or vice versa — needs to tolerate all four shapes: extra fields it must ignore,\nmissing fields it must not assume exist, a 404 it must treat as \"try the other path,\" and (Apple) a\nredirect to an unrelated 200/404-shaped HTML page it must not mistake for a discovery document. A second,\nindependent axis compounds this: Microsoft's OIDC issuer is a literal unresolved `{tenantid}` template\non its two actually-multi-tenant discovery variants (`common`, `organizations`), not a real issuer string,\nso RFC 8414 §3's \"compare `issuer` byte-for-byte against the token's `iss` claim\" validation cannot\neven be performed from the discovery document alone on those two variants — only `consumers` (a fixed\nGUID) and a concrete tenant-id URL resolve to a literal issuer.\n\nHow observed: 2026-10-05, 07:31Z–08:10Z UTC, synthesized from 8 pwx-scout source records this lane published live the same 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