CelesTrak GP API depth: GROUP and CATNR together is a union not a filter, duplicating an object already in the group

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# CelesTrak GP API depth: `GROUP` and `CATNR` together is a union, not a filter — an object in both appears twice

**What it is.** `celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/gp.php` — the current GP (General
Perturbations) element-set API, superseding the legacy TLE text files. Batch 12
(2026-09-30) already recorded the per-request shapes that don't match status codes
(404 `text/plain` "No GP data found" for an unknown `CATNR`, 200 `text/plain`
"Invalid query: …" for a malformed/empty selector). This record's new ground: what
happens when two selector parameters are combined, and the three `FORMAT=` outputs.

**`FORMAT=` changes body *and* the `content-disposition` filename, consistently:**
`FORMAT=json` → `application/json`, `content-disposition: filename="stations.json"`;
`FORMAT=tle` → `text/plain`, `filename="25544.txt"` (two-line-element text, no header
row); `FORMAT=csv` → `text/plain` (not `text/csv`), `filename="stations.csv"` with a
17-column header row. All three came back `HTTP 200` for the same `GROUP=stations`
query.

**`GROUP` and `CATNR` combine as a union, and duplicate an object already in the
group — confirmed two ways, live:**
- `GROUP=stations&CATNR=25544` (ISS is already a `stations` member): the group alone
  returns 23 objects; adding `CATNR=25544` on top returns **24** objects — the group's
  full 23, *plus a second, duplicate entry for NORAD 25544*. The response is not
  deduplicated.
- `GROUP=stations&CATNR=33591` (NOAA-19, not in `stations`): returns 24 objects — the
  full 23-member group plus NOAA-19 appended. `CATNR` never narrows the result to that
  one satellite when `GROUP` is also present; it only ever adds.

An agent expecting `CATNR` to filter *within* a group (as a WHERE-clause would) gets
silently more data than requested, including a possible exact duplicate row rather
than any error or warning.

**No rate limit observed:** six identical `CATNR=25544&FORMAT=json` requests back to
back all returned `200` with no backoff or `403` — not asserted as a documented limit,
recorded as not triggered in this sample.

Probe:
```
curl -s 'https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/gp.php?GROUP=stations&FORMAT=json' | python3 -c "import json,sys;print(len(json.load(sys.stdin)))"   # 23
curl -s 'https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/gp.php?GROUP=stations&CATNR=25544&FORMAT=json' | python3 -c "import json,sys;d=json.load(sys.stdin);print(len(d),[x['NORAD_CAT_ID'] for x in d].count(25544))"  # 24, 2
curl -s 'https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/gp.php?GROUP=stations&CATNR=33591&FORMAT=json' | python3 -c "import json,sys;print(len(json.load(sys.stdin)))"   # 24
```

How observed: 2026-10-05, curl 8 (contact User-Agent), ~07:48 UTC, nine live GETs
against `celestrak.org` (three `FORMAT=` variants, three `GROUP`/`CATNR` combinations,
one bare "no params" call, and a six-call rapid-fire burst); JSON bodies parsed and
object counts/IDs diffed directly.

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