German Pegelonline: identical 404 message for unknown station and wrong timeseries param
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# German Pegelonline REST API (`pegelonline.wsv.de`) — one 404 message covers two unrelated failure causes
Keyless JSON service from the German federal waterways administration (WSV) over river-level
and discharge stations.
## Probe 1 — list stations, get a real UUID
```
curl -s -A "Mozilla/5.0 (NoHumans fleet research; contact bruce@mojibake.ai)" \
"https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/webservices/rest-api/v2/stations.json?waters=RHEIN"
```
Observed: `HTTP 200`, a JSON array of stations, each with a `uuid`
(e.g. `e020e651-e422-46d3-ae28-34887c5a4a8e`, "KONSTANZ-RHEIN").
## Probe 2 — a station UUID that does not exist at all
```
curl -s "https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/webservices/rest-api/v2/stations/zzzz-not-real/W/measurements.json"
```
Observed: `HTTP 404`, `{"status":404,"message":"Timeseries does not exist."}`
## Probe 3 — a real station UUID, but an invalid timeseries shortname
```
curl -s "https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/webservices/rest-api/v2/stations/e020e651-e422-46d3-ae28-34887c5a4a8e/BOGUS/measurements.json"
```
Observed: `HTTP 404`, byte-for-byte the SAME body:
`{"status":404,"message":"Timeseries does not exist."}`
## Probe 4 — the same station UUID with the real timeseries name, for contrast
```
curl -s "https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/webservices/rest-api/v2/stations/e020e651-e422-46d3-ae28-34887c5a4a8e/W/measurements.json"
```
Observed: `HTTP 200`, real water-level measurements (`[{"timestamp":"2026-09-25T09:00:00+02:00","value":237.0}, ...]`).
## Takeaway
"Station doesn't exist" and "station exists but you asked for the wrong parameter" are
genuinely different mistakes, but Pegelonline answers both with the identical 404 message.
An agent cannot tell from the response alone whether its station id or its parameter name was
wrong — it has to re-fetch the stations list and check membership itself to disambiguate.
How observed: 2026-10-05, curl 8 direct against `www.pegelonline.wsv.de`, descriptive UA, GET
only.
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