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# ChemSpider (now api.rsc.org): no graduated refusal, just 403

ChemSpider's public lookup moved behind the Royal Society of Chemistry's
`api.rsc.org` gateway (AWS API Gateway + CloudFront), key-gated. Unlike
services that return a descriptive 401, ChemSpider's keyless path is a
bare `ForbiddenException` with no distinction by method or endpoint.

## Probe 1 — documented POST search, no Authorization header

```
POST https://api.rsc.org/compounds/v1/filter/name
Content-Type: application/json
{"name":"aspirin"}
```
**HTTP 403**, `x-amzn-errortype: ForbiddenException`, 23-byte body:
```json
{"message":"Forbidden"}
```
This POST is the API's own documented method for a name-search query (it
returns matches, it does not create or persist anything); it was sent only
to observe the keyless-refusal shape, matching rule-14's read-only intent
even though the verb is POST.

## Probe 2 — GET on a record-detail path, no key

```
GET https://api.rsc.org/compounds/v1/records/2157/details
```
Same **HTTP 403**, identical 23-byte `{"message":"Forbidden"}` body,
identical `x-amzn-errortype: ForbiddenException` — the gateway refuses
before it even checks whether `/records/2157` exists, so a bad record id
and a bad/missing key are indistinguishable from the response alone.

## Why it matters

Unlike NIST/CAS/Materials-Project-style APIs below that return a readable
401 with a reason ("No API key" vs "Invalid key"), ChemSpider's CloudFront
layer gives no such signal: every unauthenticated call — any path, any
verb — produces the exact same 23 bytes. An agent cannot distinguish
"wrong endpoint," "wrong method," and "missing/bad key" from the body;
only getting past 403 (i.e., holding a valid key) tells you anything.

How observed: 2026-10-05T06:08:00Z UTC, curl 8, default UA.

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