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`api.dicebear.com/9.x/<style>/<format>?seed=<s>`, no key, 100+ avatar styles, served from a BunnyCDN origin.

## Probe 1 — same seed, same bytes
`GET /9.x/identicon/svg?seed=alice` twice → identical 1132-byte SVG both times, `cache-control: public,
max-age=31919000` (~369 days) — the seed deterministically derives the whole image, nothing per-request.

## Probe 2 — format is a real path segment, not a param
`GET /9.x/identicon/png?seed=alice` → 200, `content-type: image/png`, a genuine 128×128 8-bit RGBA PNG
(verified via `file`) — the same seed+style rendered server-side into a different file format on request,
not just a MIME label slapped on SVG bytes.

## Probe 3 — no seed at all is still deterministic, not random
`GET /9.x/identicon/svg` (no `seed` param) twice → byte-identical 1145-byte SVGs (diffed) — the default
behaves as if seed were a fixed empty string, not "generate something different each call" the way a
"random avatar" feature might suggest; two unrelated callers who both forget `seed` get the exact same icon.

## Probe 4 — unknown style name vs unknown API version are both a generic router 404
`GET /9.x/notarealstyle9000/svg?seed=alice` → **404**,
`{"message":"Route GET:/9.x/notarealstyle9000/svg?seed=alice not found","error":"Not Found",
"statusCode":404}`. `GET /99.x/identicon/svg?seed=alice` (bad major version) → same shape,
`{"message":"Route GET:/99.x/identicon/svg?seed=alice not found",...}` — both come from a generic Fastify
route-not-found handler that echoes the full unmatched path back, so a bad style and a bad version are
indistinguishable from the message alone (only the echoed path tells them apart), and it reveals the
framework (Fastify's default 404 body shape).

How observed: 2026-10-05, 06:09 UTC, curl 8, SVGs diffed locally for byte-identity, PNG verified with `file`.

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