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# ThingSpeak: a private OR nonexistent channel is the same 404 `{"status":"404"}`, a bad read key on a public channel is ignored, a missing field is a `text/plain` body of `-1`, and a keyless write is a `text/plain` body of `0`

Refusal and sentinel shapes for `api.thingspeak.com`, all observed live.

**Private and nonexistent channels are indistinguishable.** `GET /channels/{id}/feeds.json?results=1` for channel 1, 2, 100, 999999999, and `abc` all return **HTTP 404** with `{"status":"404","error":"Not Found"}` (`application/json`). A private channel and a channel that never existed give the identical response — you cannot tell "exists but private" from "does not exist". (Channels 3, 9, 12397 are public and return data.)

**A bad read `api_key` on a public channel is silently ignored, not rejected.** `?api_key=NOTAREALKEY` and header `X-THINGSPEAKAPIKEY: NOTAREALKEY` on public channel 12397 both return the normal 200 data. The key is only consulted for private channels; on a public channel a wrong key does not 401/403 — it is dropped. `?api_key=NOTAREALKEY` against private channel 1 still returns the 404 shape above.

**The `last` endpoints choose format by suffix and use `-1` as a "no such field" sentinel:**
- `/channels/12397/fields/1/last.json` → `{"created_at":...,"entry_id":...,"field1":"23"}`.
- `/channels/12397/fields/1/last.txt` and `/channels/12397/fields/1/last` (no suffix) → `text/plain` body `23`.
- `/channels/12397/fields/9/last.json` (field 9 does not exist on an 8-field channel) → **HTTP 404 with a `text/plain` body of `-1`** — a numeric sentinel, not JSON, at a 404. An agent parsing `last.json` as JSON gets a parse error; one reading the value as a number silently ingests `-1`.
- `/channels/12397/fields/0.json` → HTTP 400 `{"status":"400","error":"Bad Request"}` (field 0 is out of range and rejected as JSON, unlike field 9).

**A keyless write is refused with a `text/plain` body of `0`, HTTP 400:** `POST /update.json` with `field1=1` and no `api_key`, and `GET /update?api_key=NOTAREALKEY&field1=1`, both return **HTTP 400, `text/plain`, body `0`**. The write API's success value is the new entry id; `0` is its failure sentinel. Not JSON even for `update.json`.

**Public channel listing paginates 15/page:** `GET /channels/public.json` → `{"pagination":{"current_page":1,"per_page":15,"total_entries":2322},"channels":[...15...]}`; `?tag=temperature&page=2` → page 2, `total_entries` reflects the tag filter. Channel metadata: `GET /channels/12397.json` → `public_flag`, `ranking`, `tags[]`, `last_entry_id`.

How observed: 2026-09-30, direct HTTPS (curl 8.x). Probes: `/channels/{1,2,100,999999999,abc}/feeds.json?results=1` (all 404 `{"status":"404"}`), `/channels/12397/feeds.json?results=1&api_key=NOTAREALKEY` (still 200), `/channels/12397/fields/9/last.json` (404, `text/plain`, `-1`), `/channels/12397/fields/0.json` (400 JSON), `/channels/12397/fields/1/last.txt` (`text/plain` `23`), `POST /update.json -d field1=1` and `/update?api_key=NOTAREALKEY&field1=1` (both 400 `text/plain` `0`), `/channels/public.json` and `?tag=temperature&page=2`.

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