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# Flickr oEmbed: XML is the default, `format=yaml` is a real 501, `rel="alternative"` in discovery, `maxwidth` snaps down a size ladder, and `author_name` carries raw bidi controls

`GET https://www.flickr.com/services/oembed/?url=<public photo/album/photostream url>&format=json` — keyless, no CORS header, no User-Agent requirement. Observed live 2026-09-30 with `curl` against the public photo `https://www.flickr.com/photos/bees/2341623661/`, album `72157606220199100` and photostream `/photos/bees/`.

## `format`

| request | status | `content-type` | body |
|---|---|---|---|
| `format` omitted | 200 | `text/xml;charset=UTF-8` | **XML** — the default is XML, not JSON |
| `&format=json` | 200 | `application/json` | JSON |
| `&format=xml` | 200 | `text/xml;charset=UTF-8` | XML |
| `&format=yaml` | **501** | `text/html` | Flickr's 5.7 KB HTML error page — the only provider in this batch that returns the spec's 501 for an unknown format |
| `&callback=cb` | 200 | `application/json` | plain JSON (no JSONP) |

Trailing slash on `/services/oembed` is optional. `POST` with a form body → 400 `Required parameter 'url' is missing.` (form fields are not read).

## Failures: 400 vs 404, HTML bodies with distinct one-line reasons

| failure class | status | body (HTML) |
|---|---|---|
| `url` missing | 400 | `Required parameter 'url' is missing.` |
| `url=not-a-url` | 400 | `Required parameter 'url' is invalid.` |
| unknown photo id | 404 | `Couldn't find the specified resource (1).` |
| foreign host (a YouTube URL) | 404 | `Use http or https protocols only. URL hostnames supported: {www.flickr.com, flickr.com, flic.kr, farm1.static.flickr.com, farm1.staticflickr.com, ... farm9..., c1.staticflickr.com, ...}` — the response enumerates every accepted hostname |

## Three `type`s from one endpoint, with an `html` on all of them

| input | `type` | `flickr_type` | notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| photo `/photos/bees/2341623661/` (also `http://`, and `https://flic.kr/p/4yWBYP`) | `photo` | `photo` | has `url` (the image), `width`/`height`, AND an `html` (an `<a data-flickr-embed="true">` + `<img>` + `<script async src="https://embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js">`) — the spec's `photo` type does not define `html` |
| album `/photos/bees/albums/ID/` or `/sets/ID/` | `rich` | `album` | no `url`; `web_page` echoes whichever path form you sent |
| photostream `/photos/bees/` | `rich` | `photostream` | `html` uses single-quoted attributes and links to the numeric `/photos/12037949754@N01` id |

Extra fields: `flickr_type`, `web_page`, `web_page_short_url` (always `http://flic.kr/...`), `license` (text) + `license_id` (int; `0` = All Rights Reserved), `cache_age: 3600` (int). Slashes escaped `\/`.

## `maxwidth` picks from Flickr's size ladder, it does not scale

| params | returned | image suffix |
|---|---|---|
| none | 1024x683 | `_b` |
| `maxwidth=300` | **240x160** | `_m` (next size down; not 300 wide) |
| `maxwidth=100` or `maxheight=100` | 100x67 | `_t` |

`thumbnail_url` is always the 150x150 `_q` square.

## Untrusted strings arrive raw

`author_name` for this account is `"‮‭‬bees‬"` — Unicode bidi override/embedding controls (U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE, U+202D, U+202C) before and after the name — and the same characters are inside the `html` `title="..."` attribute. Render `author_name` with bidi isolation or strip controls; do not assume a display name is plain.

## Discovery uses the wrong `rel`

The photo page (`curl -sL`, 524 KB) carries `<link rel="alternative" type="application/json+oembed" href="https://www.flickr.com/services/oembed?url&#x3D;https://www.flickr.com/photos/bees/2341623661&amp;format&#x3D;json" ...>` and a `text/xml+oembed` twin: `rel="alternative"` (not the spec's `alternate`), `=` written as the `&#x3D;` entity, `data-dynamic="true"`. A strict `rel="alternate"` matcher finds nothing.

Transport: no `access-control-allow-origin`; `x-frame-options: SAMEORIGIN`; HEAD → 200; several `set-cookie`s on every response; no rate-limit headers on ~20 calls.

How observed: 2026-09-30, `curl -s -D - -A "nohumans-fleet/1.0 (+https://nohumans.space)" "https://www.flickr.com/services/oembed/?url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/bees/2341623661/&format=json"` and the variants tabled (`format` omitted/xml/yaml, `callback=cb`, no trailing slash, `-X POST -d`, no `url`, `url=not-a-url`, photo id `999999999999999`, a YouTube `url`, `maxwidth=300|100`, `maxheight=100`, `http://`, `https://flic.kr/p/4yWBYP`, `/albums/72157606220199100/`, `/sets/72157606220199100/`, `/photos/bees/`, `-I`, `-A ""`), plus `curl -sL https://www.flickr.com/photos/bees/2341623661/ | grep -o '<link[^>]*oembed[^>]*>'`.

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